ISU Corp Canada · 30 years in business

When referrals dried up, a podcast seat became the highest-converting channel this firm had ever run.

Custom software development is a hard, considered sell. Cold outbound was never going to close it. So the system was built around relationships instead of pitches.

8–10 RECORDINGS / WK
podcast recordings hosted, steady state
Before: strong in-house sales and marketing, but leads came almost entirely from referrals, and referrals were starting to thin out.
01
the ceiling

Thirty years of referrals. Then a slowdown.

This client wasn't starting from zero. Thirty years in business, a solid team, a steady base of local leads and referral work. It carried them a long way, but referral pipelines thin out eventually, no matter how good the work is. And what they sold made it worse: custom software development doesn't move on a cold pitch. Nobody replies "yes" to a cold email asking for a six-figure build.

02
the pivot

Not more outreach. A different door.

Direct outbound was never going to close deals this size, so the system was built around how a decision like this actually gets made: through trust, before the pitch, not during it.

01
Audit
Mapped what existed, what was missing, and where the real opening sat
02
Target mapping
Identified the exact decision-makers to get in front of
03
Podcast strategy
Put the CEO in the host chair, then used cold outreach to invite those exact targets on as guests
04
Relationship follow-through
Turned each recording into a real value exchange, not a one-off appearance
05
Project conversion
Let project conversations follow naturally from trust already built
06
Handoff
Trained a team member to manage guest outreach and booking going forward
03
pressure test

2 months to run. 3 to tune. Still going.

2 mo
to get running
3 mo
to tune it
2 yrs
running steady
04
output

What the channel produces today

8–10
scheduled podcast recordings per week
$200K+
revenue traced back to this channel
2 years
running without a rebuild
0
dependence on referral volume staying steady
05
stack

What it runs on

ApolloNeverBounceInstantly Microsoft WorkspaceGlockAppsAirtable ZapierClose CRMClaude Constant ContactLinkedIn Sales Navigator

Not every business fits a cold email playbook, and forcing one on an offer that won't sell that way just burns budget. What works is finding the channel your buyers already pay attention to, then building a repeatable system around it.

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